The Cost of Sustainability: Can We Afford It?

by Sustainability Tracker 11/11/2026

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This article was contributed by Sustainability Tracker.

The Sustainable Transformation Podcast

Cassandra Williams calls herself a green capitalist. She grew up in central Queensland and has spent more than 30 years in data-led roles across finance and investment, research, and certifications and ratings. Today she is Head of Enterprise Programs and Strategy at Climateworks Centre, an independent foundation within Monash University.

So with cost of living front of mind, where does sustainability fit? Kiarne and Cassandra take the question to the kitchen table: the gas heating bill, the appliance rebate, the supermarket shelf and your super.

Cassandra shares why even she had to turn to AI to find a rebate she knew existed, the lunchtime chat with cricketer Ian Healy that shows how she explains climate risk, and the advice she gives anyone who isn’t sure climate change will affect them. Kiarne also coins a term for the brands she believes are getting off scot-free.

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This episode is a must-listen for anyone weighing up the upfront cost of a greener choice at home or at work, and for business leaders who need the numbers to make the case internally.

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